The Secured, Undisclosed Bunker of My Mind

hey, why not.....? get into every other country in the world why dontcha?

It's all so fucking senseless!!!! Our PM is such a damn lap dog to Duhbya too! bleh.

into the streets, people! dontcha think we need to?

even condi doesn't believe we should ...

though it's frightening to think she's the only "wall" between cheney and bush ....

when the time comes she will be up there at the UN pointing to "mobile weapons labs" just like Colon did.

still tend to think they're just posturing

Oh Timmay. The only thing in that article that was about Iran And Iranian-made weapons are still finding their way into Iraq, suggesting that outside influences continue to drive more violence. pretty much illustrates the same sort of media repetition of "facts" that we saw in the build-up to the Iraq war.

Yeah. If it wasn't for those pesky "outside influences" we would be just sitting around on piles of flowers eating free candy in Iraq right now. OMGWTFBBQ! IRAN has teh NUKES!!!

I'm with Freaky here. We need to be out in the streets, with the torches and teh pitchforks.

in the streets! in the streets!

nice to see you all fired up D-girl. I wanna see pitchforks!!

yeah ... because "in the streets" worked so well before iraq ....

(important reminder: this administration doesn't give a fuck what the american public thinks)

but it's not just about "this administration," timmay.

i mean, clinton's posse precipitated the bush adventure. that crowd is a bunch of ennablers.

and feb. 15, 2003 was a pretty important date in global history. no matter what the neocons think.

yeah but ... if the dems and republicans are as hopeless as the mainstream media is fatuous, who then is the audience you are protesting for?

europe?
someone else?
no one in particular?

i appreciate the revolutionary thought as much as the next person on this list, but i just don't see it having any effect on anyone ...

i keep waiting for someone to convince me otherwise ....

and waiting ...
and waiting ...
and waiting.

so, i think february 15, 2003 meant that the administration couldn't get its way in the u.n. security council, despite what would have normally been expected. too much pressure on other players there not to rile up their constituencies that much.

that would have been a huge fig leaf for the neoncons.

& i'm not talking just about rallies & marches. i mean something more like modelling a message of "no more business as usual." not organizing to create pressure on the economy means certain death for the planet. or for our freedoms, at the very least. (yay for the general strike model of organizing!)

better to die on our feet than to live on our knees, right?

& where is my pitchfork?!?

the current strategy of this administration seems to be to commit so many crimes that congress, the media and the voting public can't possibly keep up ...

sadly, it's a strategy that seems to be working.

Both of you are right, and that is part of the problem here. What if you ran into the streets with your torches and pitchforks and nobody noticed. That is America today. For one thing, protesting in the streets is so... 20th century. I'm not a dirty hippy, besides, American Idol is on.

Most people don't spend much time in the public square anymore. They drive their cars out of their garages to the garage at work, and then home again. On the weekends they drive to the mall garage. Here in my city, downtown is a ghost town, even on a weekday. Even though people are buying expensive "loft style" condos downtown. They still drive everywhere. They don't walk around in their own neighborhoods. It's weird.

How do you make protest work in a society like ours? People feel too disconnected from each other to trust in any large group effort. What will it take to make the average American desperate or hopeful enough to join other Americans in saying No to this bullshit. I want to believe it's possible, but I wonder if it is.